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		<title>By: David Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you are an atheist, there is no real reason to give a damn whether you are Jewish or not, or to care about Jewish identity.&quot;

Because this is my blood, my gang, tethered together by thousands of years of collective torture and death in the hands of an oppressive world that has always hated us for our brilliant minds and superior work ethic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you are an atheist, there is no real reason to give a damn whether you are Jewish or not, or to care about Jewish identity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because this is my blood, my gang, tethered together by thousands of years of collective torture and death in the hands of an oppressive world that has always hated us for our brilliant minds and superior work ethic.</p>
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		<title>By: SimonD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimonD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any &quot; superiority religion&quot; is plain evil and must be stamped out.

God favors no person who believes they are born superior. They will be punished instead and never have rest.

Pray there is no God if you belong to a religion that teaches otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any &#8221; superiority religion&#8221; is plain evil and must be stamped out.</p>
<p>God favors no person who believes they are born superior. They will be punished instead and never have rest.</p>
<p>Pray there is no God if you belong to a religion that teaches otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I don&#039;t know why you keep ragging at me here.  If you are an atheist, there is no real reason to give a damn whether you are Jewish or not, or to care about Jewish identity.  Like I told you, I used to be a lot like you in my views.  But the bottom line is that without some overriding source for Hebrew identity, being proud of being Jewish is just as petty as being proud of being French, Welsh, Scots, or Basque.  Unless you have some real basis for this pride other than that Jews have provided lots of Nobel winners and seem smart compared to the run of the goyim, all you are is a petty nationalist.  

Most of the things at this web-site, I agree with.  for the most part, we are in agreement on more than you realize.  But at this website, you have superstitious believers in dusty old tomes - like Meir Kahane, z&quot;l hy&quot;d featured.  I used to hang with the JDL and owe quite a bit to the late Rav.

Here is where you and I differ.  I am careful to note the real enemies, not just of western civilization, but of our own people as well - the Wahhabi.  Everywhere you see &quot;Muslim&quot; at that site, you&#039;d see me replace it with Wahhabi.

The second issue is how do we actually deal with resident Arabs in the Land of Israel.  One solution, the one advocated by the late Rav Kahane was to find a way to remove all of them from the land, preferably buying them out.  A second solution is to allow them to remain, either annexing the territory and bestowing Israeli citizenship on them, or forcing the Jordanian king to make them citizens and allowing them to express their &quot;Palestinian&quot; nationality through control of Jordan.

EITHER WAY, all the Arab terrorists have to be killed, and WE STAY IN ISRAEL - ALL OF IT.  There can be no negotiation with terrorists - they must die. 

EITHER WAY, &lt;b&gt;THERE WILL BE NO PEACE WITH THE ARABS UNTIL THEY COME CRAWLING ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES BEGGING FOR IT.&lt;/b&gt;

That is so it is thoroughly clear to you where I stand on security.

But.

I go beyond all this: all the above are yesterday&#039;s issues, the undealt with aspects of an ideology that has succeeded in its basic goal - but which has not cleaned up its mess - Zionism.

My real interest is to get beyond all this mess to the issues I have referred to above.  These issues deal with the future of the Children of Israel - all of us - and to the changes that must take place now that we have come home.  These are things you do not see at the website you directed me to.

I&#039;m presently (when I can) working on a book that deals with these issues.  

&lt;i&gt;shavua tov,&lt;/i&gt;
Ruvy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you keep ragging at me here.  If you are an atheist, there is no real reason to give a damn whether you are Jewish or not, or to care about Jewish identity.  Like I told you, I used to be a lot like you in my views.  But the bottom line is that without some overriding source for Hebrew identity, being proud of being Jewish is just as petty as being proud of being French, Welsh, Scots, or Basque.  Unless you have some real basis for this pride other than that Jews have provided lots of Nobel winners and seem smart compared to the run of the goyim, all you are is a petty nationalist.  </p>
<p>Most of the things at this web-site, I agree with.  for the most part, we are in agreement on more than you realize.  But at this website, you have superstitious believers in dusty old tomes &#8211; like Meir Kahane, z&#8221;l hy&#8221;d featured.  I used to hang with the JDL and owe quite a bit to the late Rav.</p>
<p>Here is where you and I differ.  I am careful to note the real enemies, not just of western civilization, but of our own people as well &#8211; the Wahhabi.  Everywhere you see &#8220;Muslim&#8221; at that site, you&#8217;d see me replace it with Wahhabi.</p>
<p>The second issue is how do we actually deal with resident Arabs in the Land of Israel.  One solution, the one advocated by the late Rav Kahane was to find a way to remove all of them from the land, preferably buying them out.  A second solution is to allow them to remain, either annexing the territory and bestowing Israeli citizenship on them, or forcing the Jordanian king to make them citizens and allowing them to express their &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; nationality through control of Jordan.</p>
<p>EITHER WAY, all the Arab terrorists have to be killed, and WE STAY IN ISRAEL &#8211; ALL OF IT.  There can be no negotiation with terrorists &#8211; they must die. </p>
<p>EITHER WAY, <b>THERE WILL BE NO PEACE WITH THE ARABS UNTIL THEY COME CRAWLING ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES BEGGING FOR IT.</b></p>
<p>That is so it is thoroughly clear to you where I stand on security.</p>
<p>But.</p>
<p>I go beyond all this: all the above are yesterday&#8217;s issues, the undealt with aspects of an ideology that has succeeded in its basic goal &#8211; but which has not cleaned up its mess &#8211; Zionism.</p>
<p>My real interest is to get beyond all this mess to the issues I have referred to above.  These issues deal with the future of the Children of Israel &#8211; all of us &#8211; and to the changes that must take place now that we have come home.  These are things you do not see at the website you directed me to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m presently (when I can) working on a book that deals with these issues.  </p>
<p><i>shavua tov,</i><br />
Ruvy</p>
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		<title>By: David Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This website of the Jewish Task Force likely best reflects my personal political values.

http://www.jtf.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This website of the Jewish Task Force likely best reflects my personal political values.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jtf.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jtf.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Nowosielski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Nowosielski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m aware of the importance of it, Ruvy, but I&#039;m doing it &quot;my way.&quot;

Have a great Sabbath, both of you.
Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of the importance of it, Ruvy, but I&#8217;m doing it &#8220;my way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have a great Sabbath, both of you.<br />
Roger</p>
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		<title>By: David Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and I guess you think all Jews must look and act like characters from &quot;Fiddler on the Roof,&quot; where funny beards, and say &quot;oy vey&quot; a lot. Sorry to disappoint, but I do not adhere to stereotypes.

It reminds me of a scene from &quot;Curb Your Enthusiasm&quot; where Larry David is accused of being &quot;a self hating Jew&quot; because he is overheard whistling an excerpt from an opera by Wagner while waiting in line for a film. Larry responds &quot;I may be self-hating, but it has nothing to do with being Jewish.&quot;

But please, continue with that fantasy trip of believing in great bearded legends and folk tales, if that&#039;s what makes your life worth living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and I guess you think all Jews must look and act like characters from &#8220;Fiddler on the Roof,&#8221; where funny beards, and say &#8220;oy vey&#8221; a lot. Sorry to disappoint, but I do not adhere to stereotypes.</p>
<p>It reminds me of a scene from &#8220;Curb Your Enthusiasm&#8221; where Larry David is accused of being &#8220;a self hating Jew&#8221; because he is overheard whistling an excerpt from an opera by Wagner while waiting in line for a film. Larry responds &#8220;I may be self-hating, but it has nothing to do with being Jewish.&#8221;</p>
<p>But please, continue with that fantasy trip of believing in great bearded legends and folk tales, if that&#8217;s what makes your life worth living.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

&lt;i&gt;stop with the sanctimonious UberJew schtick&lt;/i&gt;

For someone who lectures someone else who is part Jewish on the importance of his Jewish blood, you seem to discount it yourself.  Why am I not surprised?

You&#039;ve forgotten even basic Hebrew, David.  

But you are right, I am no rabbi - and will never claim to be; and you are assuredly no student.

My wits have shown me that the Torah and books of prophecy are coming true.  In that case, they are not folk-tales.  But don&#039;t worry.  You&#039;ll find that out on your own at the appropriate time....

Have a great Sabbath!
Ruvy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p><i>stop with the sanctimonious UberJew schtick</i></p>
<p>For someone who lectures someone else who is part Jewish on the importance of his Jewish blood, you seem to discount it yourself.  Why am I not surprised?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve forgotten even basic Hebrew, David.  </p>
<p>But you are right, I am no rabbi &#8211; and will never claim to be; and you are assuredly no student.</p>
<p>My wits have shown me that the Torah and books of prophecy are coming true.  In that case, they are not folk-tales.  But don&#8217;t worry.  You&#8217;ll find that out on your own at the appropriate time&#8230;.</p>
<p>Have a great Sabbath!<br />
Ruvy</p>
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		<title>By: David Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, please, Ruvy, stop with the sanctimonious UberJew schtick. Live by your own wits instead of by a book of ancient folk tales. You aren&#039;t a rabbi and I am not a student. Lech tiezdayen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, please, Ruvy, stop with the sanctimonious UberJew schtick. Live by your own wits instead of by a book of ancient folk tales. You aren&#8217;t a rabbi and I am not a student. Lech tiezdayen!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I always laughed at superstitious Jews who were afraid to spell “God” with the “o.”  I doubt that God, whatever it may be, can be funnier than Larry David or Woody Allen.  I could have gone downtown to the Jewish Theological Center and heard some overwrought academic say pretty much the same things as you have. That’s not how I think of it at all.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not superstitious that I fear to spell G-d with an &quot;o&quot;.  G-d doesn&#039;t need my respect or yours.  He was around long before the Universe, His Creation, existed.  But my fellow Jews need to know that I respect G-d.  My fellow humans need to know that I respect G-d.  Leaving the &quot;o&quot; out of His translated Name - a meaningless word in a language that has no authority - is a puerile sign of that respect for those not reading Hebrew to see.  It&#039;s needed because those not reading Hebrew need to know that the respect is necessary.

&lt;i&gt;reshít Hokhmá yir&#039;át hashém&lt;/i&gt;  The beginning of Wisdom is Awe of G-d. 

I used to be a lot like you - proud to be a Jew, but rejecting in its entirety the Faith or Knowledge that comes with being a Child of Israel.   

When I began to have faith, then I began to learn, and understand that there was more to life than resenting the holocaust or living with the nightmares of fighting Arab savages or looking for the &quot;OU&quot; sign on tasteless, overpriced cheese.  That is precisely where you are stuck.  So you can see no future for the Children of Israel.  If I had your outlook, I too would have Roger Nowosielsi&#039;s distaste for your identity, and seek, as do so many Jews, to flee from it.

This country is the &quot;first planting, the first growth, of our redemption&quot;.  And the regime that rules it, traitors like Netanyahu, Livni, Barak, Olmert, Peres, and the others, have a vested interest in seeing that this first growth does not evolve further - further evolution would cost them their power.   Rule by the Priest and the Levite would end the need for these fools and their pathetic &quot;Knesset&quot;.

You side with these fools, David - or some of them, anyway, thinking they represent security.  They represent the past, a time that is over.  That is why Zionism is dead.  The truth is that you are stuck in the nightmares and dreams of the past, and so long as you are stuck there, you will never see the dreams - or the nightmares - of the future.

And trust me, both dreams and nightmares are there, and while you may not &quot;see&quot; them or understand them, you&#039;ll be caught in them as surely as a fly is caught in a Venus&#039; Fly-trap.

So open your eyes while there is still time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I always laughed at superstitious Jews who were afraid to spell “God” with the “o.”  I doubt that God, whatever it may be, can be funnier than Larry David or Woody Allen.  I could have gone downtown to the Jewish Theological Center and heard some overwrought academic say pretty much the same things as you have. That’s not how I think of it at all.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not superstitious that I fear to spell G-d with an &#8220;o&#8221;.  G-d doesn&#8217;t need my respect or yours.  He was around long before the Universe, His Creation, existed.  But my fellow Jews need to know that I respect G-d.  My fellow humans need to know that I respect G-d.  Leaving the &#8220;o&#8221; out of His translated Name &#8211; a meaningless word in a language that has no authority &#8211; is a puerile sign of that respect for those not reading Hebrew to see.  It&#8217;s needed because those not reading Hebrew need to know that the respect is necessary.</p>
<p><i>reshít Hokhmá yir&#8217;át hashém</i>  The beginning of Wisdom is Awe of G-d. </p>
<p>I used to be a lot like you &#8211; proud to be a Jew, but rejecting in its entirety the Faith or Knowledge that comes with being a Child of Israel.   </p>
<p>When I began to have faith, then I began to learn, and understand that there was more to life than resenting the holocaust or living with the nightmares of fighting Arab savages or looking for the &#8220;OU&#8221; sign on tasteless, overpriced cheese.  That is precisely where you are stuck.  So you can see no future for the Children of Israel.  If I had your outlook, I too would have Roger Nowosielsi&#8217;s distaste for your identity, and seek, as do so many Jews, to flee from it.</p>
<p>This country is the &#8220;first planting, the first growth, of our redemption&#8221;.  And the regime that rules it, traitors like Netanyahu, Livni, Barak, Olmert, Peres, and the others, have a vested interest in seeing that this first growth does not evolve further &#8211; further evolution would cost them their power.   Rule by the Priest and the Levite would end the need for these fools and their pathetic &#8220;Knesset&#8221;.</p>
<p>You side with these fools, David &#8211; or some of them, anyway, thinking they represent security.  They represent the past, a time that is over.  That is why Zionism is dead.  The truth is that you are stuck in the nightmares and dreams of the past, and so long as you are stuck there, you will never see the dreams &#8211; or the nightmares &#8211; of the future.</p>
<p>And trust me, both dreams and nightmares are there, and while you may not &#8220;see&#8221; them or understand them, you&#8217;ll be caught in them as surely as a fly is caught in a Venus&#8217; Fly-trap.</p>
<p>So open your eyes while there is still time.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Nowosielski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Nowosielski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, David.  I&#039;m really glad that - whether by virtue of circumstance or what not - I don&#039;t share in this identity.  And you know what - I don&#039;t feel any more deprived for the fact or less inadequate.  In fact, I&#039;m much more happy that you&#039;ll ever be.  I don&#039;t happen to have this stupid burden on my shoulders.  And why should I have?  Whose purposes would it serve?

Tell me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, David.  I&#8217;m really glad that &#8211; whether by virtue of circumstance or what not &#8211; I don&#8217;t share in this identity.  And you know what &#8211; I don&#8217;t feel any more deprived for the fact or less inadequate.  In fact, I&#8217;m much more happy that you&#8217;ll ever be.  I don&#8217;t happen to have this stupid burden on my shoulders.  And why should I have?  Whose purposes would it serve?</p>
<p>Tell me!</p>
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