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		<title>By: Christopher Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

You&#039;re right, the media attention does make these knife attacks seem more common than they are in practice and we shouldn&#039;t get overly alarmed. Official over-reaction is likely to do more harm than good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, the media attention does make these knife attacks seem more common than they are in practice and we shouldn&#8217;t get overly alarmed. Official over-reaction is likely to do more harm than good.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The killings are unacceptable, clearly, but they aren&#039;t that prevalent.  The murder rate in the UK as a whole is low and these are just the ones that are important this year to keep people talking about law and order, etc.

The gang violence is a concern but the prevalence of gangs isn&#039;t a new phenomonen.  Casualty managed to get a story covered so it must be known about!

Don&#039;t get dragged into a terrified state.  Read an LA newspaper and see how that feels and then realise that LA is actually pretty safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The killings are unacceptable, clearly, but they aren&#8217;t that prevalent.  The murder rate in the UK as a whole is low and these are just the ones that are important this year to keep people talking about law and order, etc.</p>
<p>The gang violence is a concern but the prevalence of gangs isn&#8217;t a new phenomonen.  Casualty managed to get a story covered so it must be known about!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get dragged into a terrified state.  Read an LA newspaper and see how that feels and then realise that LA is actually pretty safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the whole issue would benefit from joined up thinking. There is obviously no point to increasing CCTV coverage if the system can&#039;t cope.

Similarly, we don&#039;t want to see an ever increasing percentage of our population locked up in jail.

As to government abuse of power, sure, it may seem unlikely today, but we have all seen cases of governments sliding into abuse. Spain and Germany are recent past examples and I&#039;m not sure that these kinds of surveillance techniques would be a good thing in some of the Balkan states.

There definitely needs to be limits on governmental powers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the whole issue would benefit from joined up thinking. There is obviously no point to increasing CCTV coverage if the system can&#8217;t cope.</p>
<p>Similarly, we don&#8217;t want to see an ever increasing percentage of our population locked up in jail.</p>
<p>As to government abuse of power, sure, it may seem unlikely today, but we have all seen cases of governments sliding into abuse. Spain and Germany are recent past examples and I&#8217;m not sure that these kinds of surveillance techniques would be a good thing in some of the Balkan states.</p>
<p>There definitely needs to be limits on governmental powers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Wilder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jon and Jim, it&#039;s not just about the technology.  Investment in people and process are also needed to make a workable solution.  There was another point made last night on BBC1&#039;s Question Time.  What do we do with offenders?  Our prison&#039;s are bursting at the seams and I agree it&#039;s not easy for society to tackle these issues.

&#039;How do we protect ourselves against a future extremist government abusing the powers so many of us are happy to grant now?&#039;

I think Chris&#039; comment is a bit alarmist in the context of the UK and the rest of the democratic western world.  We are a haven of democracy and I just can&#039;t see a scenario where there is a future extremist government..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jon and Jim, it&#8217;s not just about the technology.  Investment in people and process are also needed to make a workable solution.  There was another point made last night on BBC1&#8242;s Question Time.  What do we do with offenders?  Our prison&#8217;s are bursting at the seams and I agree it&#8217;s not easy for society to tackle these issues.</p>
<p>&#8216;How do we protect ourselves against a future extremist government abusing the powers so many of us are happy to grant now?&#8217;</p>
<p>I think Chris&#8217; comment is a bit alarmist in the context of the UK and the rest of the democratic western world.  We are a haven of democracy and I just can&#8217;t see a scenario where there is a future extremist government..</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 18 kids knifed, Doc, obviously the murder total is much higher, such as the awful double killing of those two French students the other day.

If you think London is genteel, you ought to come to Ryde..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s 18 kids knifed, Doc, obviously the murder total is much higher, such as the awful double killing of those two French students the other day.</p>
<p>If you think London is genteel, you ought to come to Ryde..!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Dreadful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Dreadful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that 18 &lt;I&gt;knife&lt;/I&gt; deaths in London this year or 18 murders in total?

I think we&#039;re about up to that already in sleepy ol&#039; Fresno, California (pop. half a million). And 112-degree temperatures such as we&#039;re having at the moment aren&#039;t going to help keep that number down

Ah, to walk the genteel streets of London once again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that 18 <i>knife</i> deaths in London this year or 18 murders in total?</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re about up to that already in sleepy ol&#8217; Fresno, California (pop. half a million). And 112-degree temperatures such as we&#8217;re having at the moment aren&#8217;t going to help keep that number down</p>
<p>Ah, to walk the genteel streets of London once again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed feelings about this. 

On the one hand, correctly deployed CCTV offers some measure of, if not protection from, at least detection of those committing crimes in public.

On the other hand, it does require a certain amount of faith in those in charge of the system. 

As we have seen in places like Burma and Zimbabwe recently, an oppressive state can be a real danger to its people. 

How do we protect ourselves against a future extremist government abusing the powers so many of us are happy to grant now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed feelings about this. </p>
<p>On the one hand, correctly deployed CCTV offers some measure of, if not protection from, at least detection of those committing crimes in public.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it does require a certain amount of faith in those in charge of the system. </p>
<p>As we have seen in places like Burma and Zimbabwe recently, an oppressive state can be a real danger to its people. </p>
<p>How do we protect ourselves against a future extremist government abusing the powers so many of us are happy to grant now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hoerricks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hoerricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com/2008/07/more-bad-news-for-cctv-fans.html

Everyone is crying for more cameras. Yet, no one is wondering how all of those images will be processed. Automatic systems are great for number plates. Yet, the technology is not quite there for masked or hooded criminals.

Like Jon says, we don&#039;t necessarily need more cameras. We need capable installers working with reputable equipment - following a well thought out plan. Simply putting a camera on top of an 8m pole and hoping for the best isn&#039;t cutting it.</description>
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<p>Everyone is crying for more cameras. Yet, no one is wondering how all of those images will be processed. Automatic systems are great for number plates. Yet, the technology is not quite there for masked or hooded criminals.</p>
<p>Like Jon says, we don&#8217;t necessarily need more cameras. We need capable installers working with reputable equipment &#8211; following a well thought out plan. Simply putting a camera on top of an 8m pole and hoping for the best isn&#8217;t cutting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Doktor Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doktor Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I believe technology has a role to play, CCTV is a good preventative measure but currently the quality is too poor to secure solid convictions.  We need more cameras and better cameras.&quot;

I would venture to suggest that rather than more and better cameras, we actually need more people that know what they are doing with the existing technology.

CCTV will only prevent (or perhaps more accurately contribute to a reduction in) criminality if it is used effectively to tackle current  problems, and therefore either deter (through detection), or help to remove from wider society, those responsible for unlawful activity.

Unless and until existing CCTV and IP Video systems are correctly profiled, deployed and operated in an appropriate and effective manner, then the potential for this technology to have a significant effect on reducing crime, will be sadly undermined.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe technology has a role to play, CCTV is a good preventative measure but currently the quality is too poor to secure solid convictions.  We need more cameras and better cameras.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would venture to suggest that rather than more and better cameras, we actually need more people that know what they are doing with the existing technology.</p>
<p>CCTV will only prevent (or perhaps more accurately contribute to a reduction in) criminality if it is used effectively to tackle current  problems, and therefore either deter (through detection), or help to remove from wider society, those responsible for unlawful activity.</p>
<p>Unless and until existing CCTV and IP Video systems are correctly profiled, deployed and operated in an appropriate and effective manner, then the potential for this technology to have a significant effect on reducing crime, will be sadly undermined.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Blogsvine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogsvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Happy Knifings and CCTV...&lt;/strong&gt;

Violent crimes, particularly knifings, are this year&#039;s &quot;dangerous dogs&quot; phenomenon and Eurocritics writer Pete Wilder is not a happy man....</description>
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<p>Violent crimes, particularly knifings, are this year&#8217;s &#8220;dangerous dogs&#8221; phenomenon and Eurocritics writer Pete Wilder is not a happy man&#8230;.</p>
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